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Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - BGv4.0 - 12-05-2011 04:51 PM

Calm down dude....you f'n got so flummoxed you are now quoting your own responses.

We can just agree to disagree before you have a gotdamn coronary!


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Method - 12-05-2011 04:56 PM

Take those weak ass "We can agree to disagree" cop outs back to your general section stomping grounds of FightHype.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - jlupi - 12-05-2011 04:56 PM

Smoger quote from BT

"After the ninth round, we go to Margarito?s corner. The doctor called me over. And they get the eye physician who is one of the top rated opthalmologists in the country [Anthony Currieri]. And Antonio was pleading to continue. He said, ?Steve, please! Give me one more round!? He said he felt great and that he wanted to keep going. But the doctor said, ?Steve, you have to stop it. The eye is closed.? But I hesitated, because I wanted to make sure that all of the doctors were in agreement. If there was any delay, if there was any hesitancy, it came from me. I wanted to make sure. It?s hard to stop a fight when a guy keeps coming forward. Tony fought valiantly and I always want to give the fighter every opportunity, so I wanted to make sure that there was no confusion about this.

This year, we?ve had several incidents with fighters hugging and kissing and quitting, and complaining about shoulder injures and low blows? But Margarito wanted to fight! His eye was closed and he wanted to fight! He had no excuses whatsoever and that?s what boxing is all about. You want warriors? Give me Tony Margarito! Give me Miguel Cotto! They weren?t going nowhere, brother! I love these two fighters! They had a big draw, they fought at Madison Square Garden, they fought for a title, and they got paid. What more can you ask for?"

kind of echoes what oters have said.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - BGv4.0 - 12-05-2011 05:07 PM

Method Wrote:Take those weak ass "We can agree to disagree" cop outs back to your general section stomping grounds of FightHype.
I was giving you an easy way out Bitch!

But if you want to keep looking like a fucktard....we can keep it up.

Go ahead and pull out some other gay porn pics you keep on your hard drive FAGGOT!

I'll bitch slap you on here or Fighthype....you can choose you F'N queer!


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Dickagon - 12-05-2011 06:24 PM

JD Wrote:
gravytrain Wrote:
JD Wrote:I think a fight can be competitive (or a fighter can still be in a fight, however you like to phrase it) when a fighter is still losing rounds.

When the doctor pulled the plug on the fight, Cotto while well ahead was also far more tired and looking to kill the clock - it's not like Cotto was battering Michael Jennings around the ring, he was going into the championship rounds against a guy he seemed unable to hurt that was going to continue walking him down - regardless whether his right eye was closed or not.
the thing about that is Cotto could have lost 10, 11 and 12 8-10 to Marg and still would have beat him by a point on all 3 cards. i really couldn't see that happening either. this is kind of reminding me of when people say Dirrell took a dive against Abraham.
Oh all Cotto had to do was stand up and he had the fight one, I don't think there is much dispute there...and the doctor pulling the plug had nothing to do with Cotto.

All I am saying is that nothing was different as far as Margarito's health in the 9th or 10th versus the 5th or 6th, so I would have liked to see it finish up.

I am not saying the outcome would have been different, it just would have been interesting to see it all play out...Cotto was more tired than Margarito, backing up more, holding more and looking to kill the clock. It doesn't mean anything as it relates to what the outcome actually is, I just don't think Cotto was as fresh and Margarito was as uncompetitive in there as it seems like people are saying, sure he was losing rounds, but he was applying nonstop pressure and Cotto was starting to show the wear of it on his face.
yeah, i agree with you on that. i think some people just pulled for Marg and want to think that the last 10, 11 and 12 would be when he could stop Cotto and the stoppage was a robbery. this was a good fight but Cotto just had his number and short of some Rocky shit Marg wasn't going to win.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Lil-Lightsout - 12-05-2011 06:50 PM

Method Wrote:The few people that agree with me I respect way more than the 10+ you claim disagree. Seriously. It's called the "odd-lot theory".
Wow, just wow.

I will make sure to just ignore your arrogant "all knowing ass" then. You know I thought you were cool and could be respectful. But all you are is a big crybaby, because most do not agree with you.

Shit I have been watching this game way longer than you, I even competed in it for a long time. So what makes you smarter than me? I do not come to this place acting like I am more knowledgeable than any of you guys here. I try and respect everyones opinion, even though we all will never agree on everything.

So you go on feeling how you feel and saying whatever you like, I will just converse with the decent people around here.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Fitz - 12-05-2011 07:03 PM

lol, I think the guys on Method's side are very intelligent boxing minds. But I think there are just as many intelligent and even more one this side. Only more because they are in a small minority, and the majority saw what we saw.
But the people are knowledgable.

I agree with gravy, and I touched on it earlier. It could be just a coincidence, but the ones that saw a different fight are the ones that had been Margarito fans for years and were very confident and talked about the beatdown Cotto was going to receive. It seems like it's just trying to be rationalised.

Plain and simple, Margarito got beat up like a red headed step child and got thoroughly abused like he deserved, and there was ZERO controversy in this fight what so ever. The arguing is still over something small and insignificant as it was not a controversial fight and was one sided. That's the bottom line.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Method - 12-05-2011 07:07 PM

BGv4.0 Wrote:
Method Wrote:Take those weak ass "We can agree to disagree" cop outs back to your general section stomping grounds of FightHype.
I was giving you an easy way out Bitch!

But if you want to keep looking like a fucktard....we can keep it up.

Go ahead and pull out some other gay porn pics you keep on your hard drive FAGGOT!

I'll bitch slap you on here or Fighthype....you can choose you F'N queer!
Giving me the easy way out, or trying to take it? Gimme a break. "Bitchslap me"? Have you ever successfully e-bitchslapped ANYBODY? You're an angry/militant fuck. All bark. What are you gonna do, call me a spic? Drop racial slurs? You're weak. GO back to fighthype's general section . You couldn't even hack it in the boxing section there. How you gona run game on someone here.

You're a joker bro.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Method - 12-05-2011 07:08 PM

Fitz Wrote:Plain and simple, Margarito got beat up like a red headed step child and got thoroughly abused like he deserved
That's where your credibility gets shot.


Cotto-Margarito II PPV Discussion Thread - Method - 12-05-2011 07:13 PM

Lil-Lightsout Wrote:
Method Wrote:The few people that agree with me I respect way more than the 10+ you claim disagree. Seriously. It's called the "odd-lot theory".
Wow, just wow.

I will make sure to just ignore your arrogant "all knowing ass" then. You know I thought you were cool and could be respectful. But all you are is a big crybaby, because most do not agree with you.

Shit I have been watching this game way longer than you, I even competed in it for a long time. So what makes you smarter than me? I do not come to this place acting like I am more knowledgeable than any of you guys here. I try and respect everyones opinion, even though we all will never agree on everything.

So you go on feeling how you feel and saying whatever you like, I will just converse with the decent people around here.
A big cry baby? What am I crying about? Get in where you fit in. Converse with whoever the fuck you like. Whatever you're gonna say out here is what it is. I could care less.

Tell me what I'm even debating in here, and then tell me if the exception you're trying to take out here makes sense. Did I get all "eliteist" in here (only insecure motherfuckers or inferiority complex-types would say that)? Or did I respond to someone trying to win an argument by pointing out to me that "the majority of people in here see it one way". Go back and read through the thread, because a few of you are all militantly talking shit and don't even understand what guys like JD, Critic, Kyle and I (did I miss anyone?) are even taking exception to.