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Spyder Wrote:

BrutalBodyShots Wrote:90% of the time the family reaction isn't significant. Rarely do you see a wife crying or shouting. They cut to them just watching the fight, perhaps concerned. I get that, and I don't need to see it. Obviously a wife is going to be concerned if her husband is getting his ass kicked. But show me the fighter in the corner, because I'd much rather see what his corner says, what he says, how he's breathing, his cut(s), etc - ANYTHING more significant than his onlooking spouse.

And Spyder I disagree that showing these cuts adds any value to the "event" that you'd get being there live. Live you'd never see any of these family members unless you're seated ringside. To me it adds no value to the telecast but rather takes away from it.

I have no problem with them showing the family before the fight during the anthems or whatever or doing a little family piece prior to the fight. During the fight it in my view only detracts from the bout, ESPECIALLY when it happens a half dozen times per fight which is easily the case recently.

Going back to the Chavez fight for example, there must have been at least 20 times that we saw either Chavez' pops, his wife, or Martinez' brother. What did any of those cuts do for us as the viewer? I would much rather have had 20 more listens in Chavez' or Martinez' corner to see/hear what was going on there. None of the family cuts were value-adding. Maybe seeing Chavez Sr. yell once (emotion) at his son/corner, I'll give you that. But Chavez' wife and Martinez' brother were useless, time wasting images.

The recording I watched had all of the between round stuff cut out, so I can't speak to any particular instance from that fight. But what I can speak to is generally speaking, reaction shots of people of significance adds value to a telecast. Whether it's a celebrity, family member, rival...those reaction shots have a distinct purpose. Now, maybe in this particular case, there were shots taken that didn't make sense. Maybe the Director was anticipating a stronger reaction when he called for the shot. Maybe there was a great reaction that he was just late on grabbing, so instead you see the aftermath of someone just sitting there.

It is a skill and takes talent to get it right. Not everyone is as good as the next guy. When you get it right however, it translates the emotion to the viewer and engulfs them into whatever it is you are trying to convey.

Maybe you think it adds value. I don't.

I'm not talking just the Chavez fight - I only referenced that one because it's fresh in my mind having seen it recently. However, HBO does this for essentially ALL of their fights now. Of course there are differing degrees as to how many family shots they give. Some only have a handful, others like the Chavez fight have damn near two dozen shots and it's just annoying.

When I watch the fights with a room full of friends, there are countless times that they say "who gives a shit about his wife" and such when these shots are shown. So I know there are some out there that share my views, I'm not alone in it.

I guess this is one department that I prefer MMA in, because they keep it focused completely on the fight. Actually I can't really say that, it's an HBO thing. Showtime doesn't seem to do it, and I appreciate that.