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[Warlord]

(07-29-2021 05:43 AM)blackbelt2003 Wrote:  Wlad's entire 9 year reign was never over a massively deep division, but at least early on he had a modicum of half decent and fairly skilled combatants to choose from, such as the aforementioned Calvin Brock, a still-close-to-prime Sam Peter, an in-form Shannon Briggs, undefeated Tony Thompson, Sultan Ibragimov and more.

But after the David Haye fight in 2011, the standard dropped noticeably. I'm not even sure it's up for debate, yet you guys insist on mentioning contenders from the 2000's, when I've clearly referenced the 2010's and named some of Wlad's challengers in that period, such as Alexander Leapai, Francesco Pianeta and Mariusz Wach. Two of them, just a few years later, were non-title, mismatched tune ups for Fury and Whyte, yet in this period were actual, real world title contenders.

Those guys were awful. The division was awful. Just take a peek at The Ring's rankings for 2013 and 2014.



On another note, I can still remember the 90's heavyweights being shitted on. I can distinctly remember (amidst what we now know was a heavyweight golden era and second only to the 70's in terms of depth and action, with the Bowe-Holy wars, Tyson, Foreman's comeback, Lennox Lewis et al) people bitching, moaning and complaining how bad the heavyweights are, how Larry Holmes would have kicked all their asses on the same night, and how this Lennox Lewis fella wouldn't even have been a contender in the 50's.


Black

I don’t ever remember anyone from Boxing Talk, Maxboxing, or Floydhype talking shit about the 90’s heavyweight era. It was universally agreed, or almost, that it was one of the greatest eras in boxing history. I think you must be referring to casuals, who really don’t count anyway.

As for the end of Wlad’s career, it includes the two best heavyweights on the planet today, both of which he fought. I really just don’t see what you’re seeing when it comes to Wlad or his era.

It wasn’t 90’s good, but neither is it now 90’s good. Those dudes from the 90’s could get dropped off in any era in heavyweight history and blow out 99 to 100% of the guys they fought.