Mayweather vs Cotto

[torvix2000]

One thing I'm very sure of. If you don't use your legs, then you'd forget how to use it when the "time" comes. Floyd will get knocked out.

[Fitz]

I don't think Cotto would have weighed 170. I'd imagine somewhere between 160-165. No way Mayweather was 147, Cotto did not look much bigger than Floyd. They looked roughly the same size, though Cotto would have weighed a bit more. But the size difference between the two never looked dramatic.

[Mean Mister Mustard]

PBF moved a lot more against JMM than against Cotto.

[BrutalBodyShots]

Fitz Wrote:I don't think Cotto would have weighed 170. I'd imagine somewhere between 160-165. No way Mayweather was 147, Cotto did not look much bigger than Floyd. They looked roughly the same size, though Cotto would have weighed a bit more. But the size difference between the two never looked dramatic.

I thought Cotto looked the thicker of the two.

I'd find it hard to believe that if Cotto was fighting in the ring at 160 7-8 years ago at a junior welter in his early-mid 20's that on the dark side of 30 fighting at junior middle he was fighting at the same weight or slightly above.

I think 170 sounds about right, based on his history and his body maturing over the last 7-8 years. Whoever said 167, that's a possibility.

Does anyone think Mayweather cuts weight fighting at junior middle? I mean say he DOES weigh above 154 walking around, why would he cut to a number significantly less than 154 (150) to weigh in? That doesn't make sense. For that reason I feel like he's pretty natural when he steps on the scale the day before the fight, that is close to his natural weight. Maybe he gains a few pounds after the weigh in because he eats/drinks whatever he wants. I do think him saying he was 147 is BS, but I doubt he was even over the junior welter limit on fight night.

[damarvelous1]

Mean Mister Mustard Wrote:PBF moved a lot more against JMM than against Cotto.

He did. I think he respected the hell out of JMM and chose not to war with him.

[blackbelt2003]

Mayweather looked better against Cotto than he did De La Hoya. He spent more time on the ropes vs Oscar, had long periods of inactivity and missed with a lot more shots than we're accustomed to. Oscar at that point in his career was not too far ahead of Cotto in this stage of his respective career, so I fail to see how Floyd is aging. He looked in much better form than he did when in his 'prime' against Oscar.

But it's a moot point. We'll see over the next year or two if there's a trend. An aging Floyd who gets caught and has to work harder may well be good for boxing and makes the Pacquiao fight that much more desirable, so ironically I hope Smart et al are right after all.




Black

[BrutalBodyShots]

I've always thought ever since Jones was KO by Tarver that the day Mayweather loses it will be in similar fashion. I think once his reflexes go and 30-40% of that natural talent erodes that if he faces a puncher, the puncher will eventually get there.

Mayweather, like Jones, doesn't lose many rounds so I don't really see the guy getting outpointed. Sure maybe he loses 2-3 rounds, compared to ZERO or 1 round back in his prime but that's still not enough to get it done. Jones didn't start dropping decisions until after he was laid out, and that's the path I see for Mayweather sometime in the next few years.

[ViperSniper]

BrutalBodyShots Wrote:I've always thought ever since Jones was KO by Tarver that the day Mayweather loses it will be in similar fashion. I think once his reflexes go and 30-40% of that natural talent erodes that if he faces a puncher, the puncher will eventually get there.

Mayweather, like Jones, doesn't lose many rounds so I don't really see the guy getting outpointed. Sure maybe he loses 2-3 rounds, compared to ZERO or 1 round back in his prime but that's still not enough to get it done. Jones didn't start dropping decisions until after he was laid out, and that's the path I see for Mayweather sometime in the next few years.

..I'd like that!

[ViperSniper]

It would only be fair considering the way Floyd's second half of his career has been far from great!