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[Spyder]

lloyd mayflower Wrote:

BrotherCane Wrote:

lloyd mayflower Wrote:

BrotherCane Wrote:

lloyd mayflower Wrote:

Spyder Wrote:

lloyd mayflower Wrote:So if i understand, despite your country being founded by revolution, and you desire to keep your guns in case you need to have another one, and Fidel Castro is the devil, and id guess you thought invading vietnam was ok, despite all this, BG is a marxist for suggesting you step up and do it? You are completely indoctrinated by the constitution written by revolutionaries, yet seem to me to hate them. Let me ask you how you perceive the overthrowing of an oppresive regime in Cuba by revolutionaries as any different to the founding of your own nation?

Did you just ask what the difference is between the Cuban Revolution and the American Revolution?



I think you know the answer to this...

Castros politics dont matter, we are talking about the act of removing an oppresive regime. Everyone in America has bought wholesale into the quest to destroy communism, which has resulted in the US taking actions to attempt to overthrow governments of other countries, despite it being fully none of the USs business. Im just curious why that sort of behaviour is ok in the eyes of potential revolutionaries such as yourselves

I think we should stay outta other countries...fuck all of them. For example, Muslim's don't need anyone to go to war with and the proof is they been fighting amongst themselves since before Christ. And the same for the rest of them. And we should stop sending them money and aid as well. Just how I feel about it!

That we agree on. That goes for britain aswell. We are not the worlds police. We had absolutely no business helping overthrow gaddaffi. none.

Spyder, the Americans say Castro took power for himself. He would tell you different. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. There is no doubt tho that americas propaganda campaign against Castro has skewed almost everyones judgement of him. You can get caught up in the romance of the american revolution if you like, but dont tell me all those guys were completely selfless. I wont accept it and neither should you

Well he did take power in Cuba and there was the Cuban missile crap...Russian missiles pointed right at America...what would you think if they were pointed at you?

And for the record, I ain't some Neo Con who always wants war. I don't really believe you can change another countries beliefs or behaviors but so much! And while gaddaffi wasn't a leader of freedom but he didn't wanna blow Israel off the map either or ask us to release known terrorist while getting fighter jets, tanks and arms from American! Let alone sending them $1.5 billion without congress's approval! And while the story can't be found and more, how Obama talked Google into sending them another $850 million is beyond me!

I just think it's time to forget about the rest of the world and take care of the farm...reduce our own deficit, grow our economy, get our own oil and energy here at home and in Canada! Of course in my eyes, that won't happen under Obama! Obama will go after big oil, natural gas, banks and anything else that he thinks will help him! I really do believe he hates America. With that said, he might be one of the best politicians in history getting reelected on his record! Simply amazing! Masterful trick with smoke and mirrors!

America had missiles pointed at russia in turkey. Lets not forget that. Also, given americas aggression against Cuba from the outset of Castros tenure, why wouldnt they seek an allegiance with Russia who they felt could protect them? How can you blame them for that?

I love your spin...lol..."the big, evil America was aggressive towards Cuba, so little old Cuba had no choice but align itself with the Soviets."

That's one version of it...a more honest version is that Eisenhower recognized Castro's new government six days after the overthrow, and Castro returned the favor by nationalizing land and factories owned by Americans.

But Castro was a good guy right? I mean, I guess if you ignore the hundreds of trials and executions by the revolutionists after the overthrow.

Poor little Fidel.