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Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - JD - 05-21-2021 06:16 PM
Wow...Pac trying to go out with a bang.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - lloyd mayflower - 05-22-2021 12:54 AM
Pac.... You have to love him. And I think Spence is the cleverest pick he could make in terms of taking on another young dude.
He is live here.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - the ollie reed fan club - 05-23-2021 05:05 AM
Manny is a goddam maniac for taking this fight. If he were to somehow win his career is instantly greater than Floyd's. Yeah I said it.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - Snoop - 05-23-2021 04:27 PM
(05-23-2021 05:05 AM)the ollie reed fan club Wrote: Manny is a goddam maniac for taking this fight. If he were to somehow win his career is instantly greater than Floyd's. Yeah I said it.
I'd argue that his career is already better than Floyd's. Skill and career accomplishments are two different things.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - blackbelt2003 - 05-23-2021 05:48 PM
I wouldn't say Pac's career is actually better than Floyd's in terms of accomplishments (although I wouldn't argue the matter)...but I know whose I prefer - and it's usually always the guy with a few losses because of all the seemingly-impossible challenges taken over the perfect record with asterisks (and let's face it, a perfect career usually comes with asterisks).
Black
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - Snoop - 05-24-2021 02:45 AM
(05-23-2021 05:48 PM)blackbelt2003 Wrote: I wouldn't say Pac's career is actually better than Floyd's in terms of accomplishments (although I wouldn't argue the matter)...but I know whose I prefer - and it's usually always the guy with a few losses because of all the seemingly-impossible challenges taken over the perfect record with asterisks (and let's face it, a perfect career usually comes with asterisks).
Black
I guess it depends on how you're defining accomplishments. I mean Floyd certainly generated the most amount of cash and PPV sales than any other boxer in the history of the sport, but post DLH, he legitimately did not go into a fight where he thought there would be a chance he would lose. Granted, all fighters should go into a fight believing they'll win, but he never really took a risk, and for all the incredible skill he had, that counts against him.
My grip with Pac was never really the fights he took. I've always admired him wanting to challenge himself. My thing was that I still think there's evidence he was on PEDs, but well, there is for Floyd too so there's that.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - salvador - 05-24-2021 05:30 AM
(05-24-2021 02:45 AM)Snoop Wrote: My grip with Pac was never really the fights he took. I've always admired him wanting to challenge himself. My thing was that I still think there's evidence he was on PEDs, but well, there is for Floyd too so there's that.
I didn't want to bring up Pac and the roids, but if you are then I'll join in.
Pac was obviously dirty and I suspect if he's fighting Spence it's because he's found a new doctor who can hide the roids from the blood tests and he's gonna come in looking like the Hulk.
If he comes in looking middle aged and gets destroyed I'll have a lot more respect for him than if he looks great and wins because we all know he doesn't have the natural tools anymore to take a young buck like Spence - even after the accident.
I can't forgive him for all the cheating and careers he sidetracked because of his flagrant use. I hope Spence maims him.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - the ollie reed fan club - 05-24-2021 06:20 AM
(05-24-2021 02:45 AM)Snoop Wrote: I guess it depends on how you're defining accomplishments. I mean Floyd certainly generated the most amount of cash and PPV sales than any other boxer in the history of the sport, but post DLH, he legitimately did not go into a fight where he thought there would be a chance he would lose. Granted, all fighters should go into a fight believing they'll win, but he never really took a risk, and for all the incredible skill he had, that counts against him.
My grip with Pac was never really the fights he took. I've always admired him wanting to challenge himself. My thing was that I still think there's evidence he was on PEDs, but well, there is for Floyd too so there's that.
These days I'm pretty sure that legit 90-95% of the top guys are cycling on and off something at some point in their career. It's like believing a dude can win the Tour De France clean. I mean I guess it's possible, just not probable.
Sprinting is another one, Usain Bolt was doped to the eyeballs, take it to the bank.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - Imperius3 - 06-18-2021 03:42 PM
No VADA testing for this fight.
This might be a great fight if Pac is juiced to the gills.
RE: Pacquio - Spence 8/21 Done - salvador - 06-19-2021 01:29 PM
(06-18-2021 03:42 PM)Imperius3 Wrote: No VADA testing for this fight.
This might be a great fight if Pac is juiced to the gills.
Hilarious
At +250 Pac might be a decent bet on output alone.
It would almost be worth it to see Pac come in looking like the Hulk and win just to shine a spotlight on how dirty this sport is.
Boxing deserves to have Spence-Crawford collapse.