Saul Alvarez vs Austin Trout - The Future of Boxing Starts Now!

[Fitz]

I didn't even know it was open scoring, until they mentioned to the fighter in the post fight interview, if the "open scoring played a factor". The broadcast we got never referenced to it. It just looked like a normal fight to me, lol. But I agree, open scoring sucks.

I scored the fight 115-113 for Trout, though there were many close rounds. Could have gone either way.

[blackbelt2003]

Great fight...luckily we knew nothing about the open scoring on our telecast. I wondered why they'd started putting the belt on Canelo before the verdict was announced!



But I thought Canelo did a great job. His defence was superb and he outboxed Trout at times. Trout was throwing a lot, but not really landing much, and what he did land was pitty pat and overshadowed by Canelo's harder follow ups.


I had Canelo winning by a good two or three points.



But I like Trout. He is a good guy and I fully respect his honesty.




Black

[Mean Mister Mustard]

The open scoring sucked ass, as did some of the judges scorecards. We need to write in to the comissions and complain, even if it's only 8-9 of us that do it. If boxing fans a whole stepped up and let those dumb assess know that we are watching them, then they might think twice about pulling off shit like that again.

I expected Canelo to win, although a little more convincingly. Trout showed determination and grit in trying to go after Canelo, but it showed that he is just not all that comfortable coming forward. I think the guy really expected Alvarez to fight like Brandon Rios.

One thing that I didn't like about Alvarez was his stamina. Sure it was an intense fight, with a lot of waiting and upper body movement, but this isn't the first fight where we've seen Alvarez have to put his hands down and shake them off a bit. I think that the guy has too much mass on his arms. Maybe he should lay off whatever strength training it is that he's doing. His power comes from his tree trunk legs anyway.

[Dickagon]

i've only watched 4 rounds so far but i'd it 2-2. i'll to watch the rest later. it's only been 4 rounds but i think Cotto would have been a tougher fight for Canelo than he's for Trout.

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(04-21-2013 12:25 AM)JD Wrote:  Even if Canelo lost...he was going to win.

I had him by a point, but those cards were less than stellar.

that's my only problem with the fight, no way Canelo would lose short of getting stopped. it sounds like he got a gift on the cards.

[BrutalBodyShots]

I wouldn't say Alvarez got a gift. It was a close fight that could have gone either way, probably even in rounds depending on how you saw them but the knockdown probably would have made the difference.

[Fitz]

http://www.badlefthook.com/canelo-alvare...stin-trout

Quote: Showtime Scores...

The crew had is extremely tight as well - 114-114 (Bernstein), 114-113 Alvarez (Farhood) and 115-114 Alvarez (Malignaggi).

Official Scores...

Unanimous for Alvarez - 118-109 (Stanley Christodoulou), 116-111 (Oren Shellenberger) and 115-112 (Rey Danseco).

Other notable scores (the split is almost 50/50)...

James Foley (Bad Left Hook): 115-112 Alvarez

Patrick Connor (Queensbury Rules): 117-110 Trout

Kory Kitchen (Bad Left Hook): 115-112 Alvarez

Cliff Rold (Boxing Scene): 116-111 Trout

Bart Barry (15 Rounds): 115-114 Alvarez

Lee Wylie (The Sweet Science): 115-112 Trout

Jake Donovan (Boxing Scene): 115-112 Alvarez

Brian Campbell (ESPN): 115-112 Trout

Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) 115-112 Alvarez

Mark Ortega (RingTV): 114-113 Trout

John Whisler (San Antonio Express-News): 117-110 Alvarez

Lem Satterfield (RingTV): 114-113 Trout

Michael Rosenthal (RingTV): 114-113 Alvarez

Tom Gray (Seconds Out): 114-113 Trout

Bob Velin (USA Today): 114-113 Alvarez

Tim Dahlberg (Associated Press): 114-113 Alvarez

Steve Zemach (Queensbury Rules): 114-113 Trout

Alex McClintock (Queensbury Rules): 115-112 Alvarez

Ryan Maquinana (Boxing Scene): 114-113 Trout

Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-113 Alvarez

Steve Lillis (BoxNation): 115-114 Trout

Ryan Burton (Boxing Scene): 115-112 Alvarez

Raymond Markarian (The Sweet Science): 115-112 Trout

Paul Magno (Boxing Tribune): 114-113 Alvarez

Stephen Smith (British fighter): 115-114 Trout

Ishe Smith (American fighter): 116-111 Alvarez

[Dickagon]

i think it's 115/112 or 114/113 for Trout. i laughed my ass off when one of those cats said Canelo might have punched himself out too, that's hilarious. i forgot what round that's though.

[Fitz]

http://fightscorecollector.blogspot.com....l?spref=tw

Quote:Canelo vs Trout - Press and Fans Stats

By Bobby Hunter


After a long day I can finally reveal my findings concerning the fight between Canelo Alvarez and Austin Trout. I was able to collect 194 scores from Press and fans for this fight which was deemed to be a close one with the exception of the ringside judges. You will see in the scores below that the Press had Canelo narrowly ahead in the 45 scores collected whilst the fans on twitter and all the best boxing forums had Trout winning by a decent margin In total the fans sent in 149 scores. Thanks.

My score for the fight was 114-114 a draw but I did have Trout winning 6-5-1 in rounds but gave Canelo the 10-8 for his knockdown scored in the 7th round.

Below is the totals for all the scores, followed by a breakdown of Press then Fan scores. I have as always listed and named every score from the Press and named the boxing forums who send in so many scores.


TOTAL: 194 SCORES.......TROUT 106..........CANELO 81........DRAW 7


PRESS: 45 SCORES...........TROUT 19............CANELO 23........DRAW 3


FANS: 149 SCORES...........TROUT 87............CANELO 58........DRAW 4




List of Press and Fan Forum Scores

Matthew Mojica (Fightsource) 115-112 Trout

Al Bernstein (Showtime TV) 114-114 Draw

Steve Farhood (Showtime TV) 114-113 Canelo

Paulie Malignaggi (Showtime TV) 115-114 Canelo

Dan Rafael (ESPN) 114-113 Canelo

Ryan Burton (BoxingLab) 115-112 Canelo

Pro-Boxing Jake 114-113 Canelo

Billy Ferguson (UKFighthype) 114-113 Canelo

The Boxing Tribune 114-113 Canelo

Ryan Maquinana (Boxing Inside) 114-113 Trout

FightersRated 115-112 Canelo

Corey Quincy (Fighthype) 116-111 Canelo

Brian Campbell (ESPN) 115-112 Trout

Fightnews 114-113 Canelo

Roe (Checkhookboxing) 114-113 Canelo

Victor Salazar (Thaboxingvoice) 115-112 Canelo

Paddy Cronan (Onthegrindboxing) 114-113 Trout

Jorge Hernandez (LowBlow Radio) 114-113 Trout

Tom Gray (RingMagazine) 114-113 Trout

Phil D Jay (Worldboxingnews) 115-112 Canelo

Alex Morris (KTC Boxing) 114-113 Trout

Cliff Roid (Boxingscene) 116-111 Trout

Wolfgang Schiffbauer (Fightnews) 116-111 Trout

John A MacDonald (Thaboxingvoice) 115-112 Trout

Lee John Wyle (Freelance) 115-112 Trout

Tommy Allan (Boxingasylum) 114-114 Draw

Steve Lillis (Boxnation TV) 115-114 Trout

Steve Zemach (Queensbury Rules) 114-113 Trout

David Lotts (Freelance) 114-113 Canelo

Mark Ortega (RingMagazine) 114-113 Trout

Ray Markarian (TheSweetScience) 115-112 Trout

Kieran Muvaney (ESPN) 115-112 Canelo

Terry Dooley (Boxingscene) 116-111 Canelo

Jake Donovan (Boxingscene) 115-112 Canelo

Nes (Thaboxingvoice) 114-113 Trout

Ramon Aranda (3morerounds) 114-113 Canelo

Ernest Gabion (BoxingLab) 114-113 Trout

Kelsey McCarson (Thesweetscience) 116-111 Canelo

Steve Bunce (Boxnation TV) 115-113 Canelo

Rob Day (RingNews24) 114-113 Canelo

Luis Sandoval (Boxinglab) 114-113 Canelo

Josh McDaniel (Leaveitintheringradio) 114-113 Canelo

Nigel Collins (ESPN) 115-114 Canelo

Gabriel Montoya (LeaveitintheringRadio) 114-113 Trout



Gareth Brown (twitter fan) 114-114 Draw

JMckBoxingmadmag (twitter fan) 115-112 Trout

Ben Randall (twitter fan) 115-113 Canelo

Cole Christensen (twitter) 114-113 Canelo

Adam Gerston (twitter fan) 115-112 Trout

Adam Warburton (twitter fan) 114-113 Canelo

Alasdair Hendrie (Twitter fan) 115-112 Canelo

Grubby Jim ( twitter fan ) 114-113 Trout

Alex McIntock (twitter fan) 115-112 Canelo

Jasper (twitter fan) 115-113 Trout

Miguel Rodriguez (twitter fan) 114-113 Canelo



Saddo boxing Forum - 115-114 Trout.......115-112 , 114-113 Canelo

Boxingasylum Forum - 115-112 x4, 115-113 Trout........114-113 x2, 115-112 x3 Canelo

Livefight Forum - 114-113 x3, 115-112 Trout...............115-112 x2 Canelo

Fighthype Forum - 115-112 x4, 115-114 Trout

Ringnews24 Forum - 119-110 Canelo

Doghouseboxing Forum - 116-113, 114-113 Trout...........114-113, 115-112 x2 Canelo

Thesweetscience Forum - 114-113 Canelo


Boxrec Forum - 115-112 x6, 116-111 x2, 115-113 x2, 115-114, 114-113 Trout

114-113 x3, 115-112 x3, 115-113 x2, 116-111 x2, 117-110 Canelo

114-114 x2 Draw


Eastsideboxing Forum - 114-113 x14, 115-112 x9, 115-114 x2, 115-113 x2, 116-114,
117-112, 116-113 (all for Trout)

114-113 X6, 115-112 X5, 116-111 X2, 116-113, 116-114, 116-112
115-114, (all for Canelo)

114-114 x2 Draw



Boxingscene Forum - 114-113 x7, 115-112 x6, 115-113 x2, 115-114 x2, 116-111 Trout

114-113 x7, 116-111 x2, 115-112 Canelo


Checkhook Boxing Forum - 114-113 x2, 116-112 Trout


Boxing Palace Forum - 115-112 Trout.....................114-113 Canelo

[MrFactor]

(04-21-2013 10:02 PM)BrutalBodyShots Wrote:  I wouldn't say Alvarez got a gift. It was a close fight that could have gone either way, probably even in rounds depending on how you saw them but the knockdown probably would have made the difference.

This fight was very similar to DLH/Quartey. I think Trout being knocked down really killed his chance at winning. I think he outpointed Canelo and could have gotten a 10/9 for the 7th. Trout was fighting alot more than Canelo last nite and lost.

[BigG]

At first watch I scored it 115-112 Trout. 2nd watch 114-113 Canelo...really could have gone either way. One thing I'm sure of Canelo still needs work before fighting Floyd. Floyd completely schools him at this point.