Calling out fighters you thought got a pass

[SKULLSPLITTER]

blackbelt2003 Wrote:LOL, CEO, I WISH you would find someone new to hate as much as Hatton. That level of hate is priceless, and I miss it. Are there any better haters on ANY board than you and Stevenski?


Or are you both mellowing in old age?




Black

lol....I've only mellowed with this community....OTHER forums aren't safe, and I still bring it from time to time when I spot a golden opportunity...

You should have seen what I did over at boxingscene and eastside boxing last year.....lol...too many scalps and souls to count, brother....


but frankly, I don't have time to Hate like I used to...there's a couple more victims left though....time will be MADE for them.

[blackbelt2003]

The CEO Wrote:

blackbelt2003 Wrote:LOL, CEO, I WISH you would find someone new to hate as much as Hatton. That level of hate is priceless, and I miss it. Are there any better haters on ANY board than you and Stevenski?


Or are you both mellowing in old age?




Black

lol....I've only mellowed with this community....OTHER forums aren't safe, and I still bring it from time to time when I spot a golden opportunity...

You should have seen what I did over at boxingscene and eastside boxing last year.....lol...too many scalps and souls to count, brother....


but frankly, I don't have time to Hate like I used to...there's a couple more victims left though....time will be MADE for them.

I know it's too much to ask for it to be Floyd.


Amir Khan possibly? He fits the bill: British, flawed and hyped!





Black

[Snoop]

The CEO Wrote:Don't even sweat it, Gandalf....several others here and myself know you're not trolling...we were just letting it slide....lol....I don't know why, but the boys are trying to perform some kind of revisionist renaissance with that unprofessional, overtouted, underskilled fake fuck I nailed 5 years ago...

Hatton was what he was....a low Boxing IQed, but spirited, British level champion who took advantage of his rabid fanbase and maximized his earnings....his resume was EXTREMELY padded...he didn't even fight the best comp in his own country (Witter) at the time...

Warren paid a one foot out the door Tszyu to come over and take it in the ass, and he cruised off that monumentally disgusting win for YEARS...he was given the decision against Collazo so he could straight up SELL his 0 to Mayweather...he was a big fat cherry, and he knew it...then, he made even MORE money off his foolish fans by getting the Pacquiao paycheck he didn't deserve...

That is all entirely accurate and written in stone...people wanna say, "but he only lost to the best!"...when the thing is, he only came over and fought the best after NEARLY 40 FIGHTS, and it was STRICTLY for the money...if he went life and death with Collazos and Lazcanos, how was he supposed to beat ELITE level fighters?...he knew that...

Manchester, hooligans....all "firty free fousand" of his blind, travelling fans...."ayyyy....I'm like you...love me beer and darts and me bangers and mash...buy me brand and bet your house!....BLUE MOOOOON on iTunes!"

lol....fuck that noise.


In his career high performance, and this says it all, Ricky Hatton had to CHEAT to win...at home...with his family friend, Dave Parris, as the ref...

I've gone over this and proven myself right so many times it's overkill, so I'm purposely leaving shit out on purpose....but don't give Hatton a pass, boys...because that means he pulled the wool over your eyes TOO....there are so many worthy warriors out there who never landed a substantial, let alone HUGE, paycheck and died broke....while that fraud's fuckin' set for life...


There ya go...lol...you may have sucked me in...but don't expect any counters...

I'm walkin' off...

Not sure where I stand on all this Hatton debate, but that's just some damn good hatin'.

[lloyd mayflower]

Am I the only one that still doesnt get it? I understand why some people hate Ricky Hatton. I happen to like him, but that's purely down to opinion. I have enough hate in me, I have to like someone to balance out the force. I also understand slating his boxing ability. BUT I can't see where he was ever given any sort of "pass" since that's what this thread is about.

He didn't fight the best? Nope, he definitely did that.

He didn't come to America? Nope he did that too, several times.

He didn't come to America till late in his career? Well Black already pointed out that wasnt the case, and anyway, why should he? He got more people to cross the Atlantic than the majority of fighters could get to cross the street.

He struggled against Luis Collazo? A 140lb'er beat a 147 champ who nobody looks good against, in America.

He sold his 0 to Floyd? No fuckin way, anyone could see Ricky Hatton genuinely thought he could win that fight.

I have no problem with hate for Ricky Hatton or anyone else. Hating makes us strong. I just don't see how he has ever avoided competition, or avoided challenges like leaving home. His record is there. It's not hard to find. He was far from a homer.

[the ollie reed fan club]

The CEO Wrote:then, he made even MORE money off his foolish fans by getting the Pacquiao paycheck he didn't deserve...

Look I agree this is an excellent post in the art of hating but I don't think you get it when it comes to the protected part.

As for the undeserved paycheck against Pac, the dude was the fucken undisputed champion at 140 and Manny wanted to take that crown for himself. How is that undeserved? The guy had never been beaten at that weight?

Look hate is great and nobody does it better than the Zen master of it but sometimes hate also gets in the ways of the facts.

Personally I don't think Ricky 'sold' his zero. I think the idiot was actually deluded enough to believe he could win. As for the sucking massively part I agree with all of that.

[Gandalf The Black]

ROLLDEEP Wrote:

Gandalf The Black Wrote:

blackbelt2003 Wrote:

Gandalf The Black Wrote:I did look it up. Lewis' SECOND fight was in the U.S. Hatton had almost 30 fights before leaving the UK. He almost lost(did in my opinion) to Collazo in his American debut!!! He then manage to get dropped by Floyd and Pac. He rarely travelled outside the UK because he wasn't a very good fighter and was protected. You have an advantage over your opponent when they fight in your territory.

Just thought you might like to know that Hatton's 2nd fight was at Madison Square Garden, too. I'm pretty sure he fought in Atlantic City early on, and Germany, too.

And then I KNOW he fought a 12 rounder in the US, Detroit if I remember rightly, on a Showbox event, coming through a bad cut to take a Latin guy out in the 2nd.


That's just off the top of my head, so I don't know where you get 30 fights from?




Black

Ok. Great. If you want to give Hatton props for fighting a few time off his home turf in the earlier and latter part of his career...cool. If you want to give Hatton props for beating a 36 year old Kostya Tszyu...cool. If you want to give him props for fighting nobodies for a majority of his career except the last portion where he got pummeled by Collazo, Floyd and Pacquaio that's fine also.
http://www.youtube.com/v/sdvdFYVmjgM

Youre missing the point....it doesn't matter if he won, lost, got ko'ed in 5 seconds or whatever. We're not defending Hattons skills as he was a limited fighter who done the very best with his limited skill set.



We are however, challenging the notion he was protected and never fought anyone.


Snoop mentioned that boxers have to fight in America as thats where the money and names are.



Well guess what? For his weight, Hatton was probably most popular fighter at the time. So what did you want Hatton to do? Not build a fan base over here in the UK? Not polish his skills? Fly straight over to America, leave his British fans and turn his back on his country?


He had quite a balanced career I thought. A steady building up of a career and a fan base to which he travelled and tested his skills towards the end against the best. What else could he have done?

Again, I'm not bothered how he got on.....that a different topic and one we probably would all agree on. A B level fighter who failed to mix it with the best.


But fighting Tszyu, Floyd and Pac....the latter two away from home....and then saying he was protected? :surprise: What the...?

No, you're missing the point!!!!!! I SAID "PROTECTED FOR A MAJORITY OF HIS CAREER" not his ENTIRE CAREER!!!!!!!!!!!! Also, let's get something straight. I don't have an ounce of hatred towards Hatton as a person. I would be more than happy to have a pint with him and his parents who I came to like from the HBO 24/7 series. I have no animosity towards the UK. I actually went there once when I was young and the people were friendly and I was amazed at how clean the city was. So don't fence me in!

[Gandalf The Black]

The CEO Wrote:Don't even sweat it, Gandalf....several others here and myself know you're not trolling...we were just letting it slide....lol....I don't know why, but the boys are trying to perform some kind of revisionist renaissance with that unprofessional, overtouted, underskilled fake fuck I nailed 5 years ago...

Hatton was what he was....a low Boxing IQed, but spirited, British level champion who took advantage of his rabid fanbase and maximized his earnings....his resume was EXTREMELY padded...he didn't even fight the best comp in his own country (Witter) at the time...

Warren paid a one foot out the door Tszyu to come over and take it in the ass, and he cruised off that monumentally disgusting win for YEARS...he was given the decision against Collazo so he could straight up SELL his 0 to Mayweather...he was a big fat cherry, and he knew it...then, he made even MORE money off his foolish fans by getting the Pacquiao paycheck he didn't deserve...

That is all entirely accurate and written in stone...people wanna say, "but he only lost to the best!"...when the thing is, he only came over and fought the best after NEARLY 40 FIGHTS, and it was STRICTLY for the money...if he went life and death with Collazos and Lazcanos, how was he supposed to beat ELITE level fighters?...he knew that...

Manchester, hooligans....all "firty free fousand" of his blind, travelling fans...."ayyyy....I'm like you...love me beer and darts and me bangers and mash...buy me brand and bet your house!....BLUE MOOOOON on iTunes!"

lol....fuck that noise.


In his career high performance, and this says it all, Ricky Hatton had to CHEAT to win...at home...with his family friend, Dave Parris, as the ref...

I've gone over this and proven myself right so many times it's overkill, so I'm purposely leaving shit out on purpose....but don't give Hatton a pass, boys...because that means he pulled the wool over your eyes TOO....there are so many worthy warriors out there who never landed a substantial, let alone HUGE, paycheck and died broke....while that fraud's fuckin' set for life...


There ya go...lol...you may have sucked me in...but don't expect any counters...

I'm walkin' off...

I Love You!

[Maxy]

The CEO Wrote:Don't even sweat it, Gandalf....several others here and myself know you're not trolling...we were just letting it slide....lol....I don't know why, but the boys are trying to perform some kind of revisionist renaissance with that unprofessional, overtouted, underskilled fake fuck I nailed 5 years ago...

Hatton was what he was....a low Boxing IQed, but spirited, British level champion who took advantage of his rabid fanbase and maximized his earnings....his resume was EXTREMELY padded...he didn't even fight the best comp in his own country (Witter) at the time...

Warren paid a one foot out the door Tszyu to come over and take it in the ass, and he cruised off that monumentally disgusting win for YEARS...he was given the decision against Collazo so he could straight up SELL his 0 to Mayweather...he was a big fat cherry, and he knew it...then, he made even MORE money off his foolish fans by getting the Pacquiao paycheck he didn't deserve...

That is all entirely accurate and written in stone...people wanna say, "but he only lost to the best!"...when the thing is, he only came over and fought the best after NEARLY 40 FIGHTS, and it was STRICTLY for the money...if he went life and death with Collazos and Lazcanos, how was he supposed to beat ELITE level fighters?...he knew that...

Manchester, hooligans....all "firty free fousand" of his blind, travelling fans...."ayyyy....I'm like you...love me beer and darts and me bangers and mash...buy me brand and bet your house!....BLUE MOOOOON on iTunes!"

lol....fuck that noise.


In his career high performance, and this says it all, Ricky Hatton had to CHEAT to win...at home...with his family friend, Dave Parris, as the ref...

I've gone over this and proven myself right so many times it's overkill, so I'm purposely leaving shit out on purpose....but don't give Hatton a pass, boys...because that means he pulled the wool over your eyes TOO....there are so many worthy warriors out there who never landed a substantial, let alone HUGE, paycheck and died broke....while that fraud's fuckin' set for life...


There ya go...lol...you may have sucked me in...but don't expect any counters...

I'm walkin' off...

Can't agree with that.

Undoubtedly you hate well, but alas, you talk bollocks. Again though, it ain't my place to throw out the where's and what's of Ricky Hatton.

However.

He ain't a fraud. He is what he is.

What he most definitely ain't....is a fighter who deserves to be in this thread. Gandalf the sap put him in here, brought him up, used him as an example of a fighter who is given a pass. That's where the problem is. It ain't even thread worthy.

Said it over and over, a fuckin' billion times...on FH and on here, there ain't ever been anyone who thought Hatton was anything more than what he was. This ain't boxingscene...FH weren't boxingscene...this ain't eastside...same as FH weren't.

Fuck it, I am gonna walk away from defending Hatton...I ain't even got any beef with you but the prick who spouted the shite earlier on in this thread and then asked for names of top ten all time fighters and what not, is the kinda dumb cunt who fades away into oblivion on the aforementioned sites.

Cheers!

[Dickagon]

i don't think anybody is hyping Hatton up, i'm not saying he's great. he just wasn't the best example for a cat holding a title hostage and not taking any challenges, some fighters in America are worse than Calzaghe was too they're on a Danny Green level. i don't see foreign guys coming to America the same as it used to be, the sport has changed a lot and foreign guys are more likely to be robbed and denied a rematch now instead of being able to come here prove themselves.

[Gandalf The Black]

Maxy Wrote:

The CEO Wrote:Don't even sweat it, Gandalf....several others here and myself know you're not trolling...we were just letting it slide....lol....I don't know why, but the boys are trying to perform some kind of revisionist renaissance with that unprofessional, overtouted, underskilled fake fuck I nailed 5 years ago...

Hatton was what he was....a low Boxing IQed, but spirited, British level champion who took advantage of his rabid fanbase and maximized his earnings....his resume was EXTREMELY padded...he didn't even fight the best comp in his own country (Witter) at the time...

Warren paid a one foot out the door Tszyu to come over and take it in the ass, and he cruised off that monumentally disgusting win for YEARS...he was given the decision against Collazo so he could straight up SELL his 0 to Mayweather...he was a big fat cherry, and he knew it...then, he made even MORE money off his foolish fans by getting the Pacquiao paycheck he didn't deserve...

That is all entirely accurate and written in stone...people wanna say, "but he only lost to the best!"...when the thing is, he only came over and fought the best after NEARLY 40 FIGHTS, and it was STRICTLY for the money...if he went life and death with Collazos and Lazcanos, how was he supposed to beat ELITE level fighters?...he knew that...

Manchester, hooligans....all "firty free fousand" of his blind, travelling fans...."ayyyy....I'm like you...love me beer and darts and me bangers and mash...buy me brand and bet your house!....BLUE MOOOOON on iTunes!"

lol....fuck that noise.


In his career high performance, and this says it all, Ricky Hatton had to CHEAT to win...at home...with his family friend, Dave Parris, as the ref...

I've gone over this and proven myself right so many times it's overkill, so I'm purposely leaving shit out on purpose....but don't give Hatton a pass, boys...because that means he pulled the wool over your eyes TOO....there are so many worthy warriors out there who never landed a substantial, let alone HUGE, paycheck and died broke....while that fraud's fuckin' set for life...


There ya go...lol...you may have sucked me in...but don't expect any counters...

I'm walkin' off...

Can't agree with that.

Undoubtedly you hate well, but alas, you talk bollocks. Again though, it ain't my place to throw out the where's and what's of Ricky Hatton.

However.

He ain't a fraud. He is what he is.

What he most definitely ain't....is a fighter who deserves to be in this thread. Gandalf the sap put him in here, brought him up, used him as an example of a fighter who is given a pass. That's where the problem is. It ain't even thread worthy.

Said it over and over, a fuckin' billion times...on FH and on here, there ain't ever been anyone who thought Hatton was anything more than what he was. This ain't boxingscene...FH weren't boxingscene...this ain't eastside...same as FH weren't.

Fuck it, I am gonna walk away from defending Hatton...I ain't even got any beef with you but the prick who spouted the shite earlier on in this thread and then asked for names of top ten all time fighters and what not, is the kinda dumb cunt who fades away into oblivion on the aforementioned sites.

Cheers!

Well you're one of those diehard British Hatton fans. "the kinda dumb cunt"? How old are you? 12? Bet you're guilty of some of the crazy comments I've heard many diehard Hatton fans make. Like "He's the greatest boxer to ever live" and "He's a better body puncher than Joe Frazier".