Politics Unfiltered

[Warlord]

Gay_Sayer, every time you ask a question that has already been answered, I'm just going to re-post what I've already written. You can respond if you'd like. And if you ask the question again, I will re-post the exact same answer again and again for you. So fire away.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  Please provide evidence for the existence of Abraham, Issac and Jacob.

(09-06-2019 10:39 PM)Warlord Wrote:  Whether or not you think Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob existed is irrelevant to the claim that Judaism is an ancient religion, and was an ancient religion before the Roman Empire ever existed.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  As has already been demonstrated, Judaism and Christianity are both products of the Nile Valley.

(09-06-2019 10:39 PM)Warlord Wrote:  Again, tell me which older religious traditions you think they come from. And please don't post some ridiculous afrocentric jpegs you found on some third-rate, garbage tier blog and think it an acceptable substitute for a coherent argument.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  "Internal Evidence"? LOL. I'm sorry but your circular reasoning doesn't work here. The Torah isn't true just because it says it's true. You need to provide some extra-biblical evidence to support your arguments. The Torah is *NOT* a history book.

(09-06-2019 10:39 PM)Warlord Wrote:  That's not even close to what I said, shitbrain. I said that ancient documents contain internal evidence. As expected, it was a complete waste of time. It went completely over your head.

Some examples of internal evidence:

1.) Moses, Phinehas, Hophni, and Hur (all from the Exodus period in Jewish history) are Egyptian names, not Hebrew names. No other group of Israelites have/had Egyptian names in the Bible. This is an example of internal evidence which is consistent with external sources.

2.) The tribe Moses belonged to were the Levites. The Levites were the priestly class in Judaism. The architecture of the Jewish Tabernacle and its surrounding courtyard described in the Torah matches that of the battle tent of Pharaoh Rameses II exactly. Again, this is internal evidence which is consistent with external sources.

3.) In the Song of Deborah (written at least as early 1100-1200 BC) the Torah records the defeat of the Canaanites at the hands of the Israelites, mentioning every tribe by name except one -- the Levites. If one were to assume the Biblical timeline regarding Jewish captivity is accurate, and that Moses (with his Egyptian name) and the Levites (with their Egyptian influences) came from Egypt, this would match up with the New Kingdom era of Egyptian history, where Ramesses II (the man most scholars commonly believe would have been Pharaoh at the time of the Exodus, and the same man mentioned in point 2) ruled. Again, internal evidence. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/cultu...ished-god/

4.) The Song of Miriam, conversely, mentions the Levites but no other tribes of Israel, because it was written by the diaspora during the Exodus. Again, internal evidence.

Again, as I mentioned earlier, you can find ample internal evidence of the Torah's historicity that matches up to what we already know about ancient history. The New Testament of the Bible is perhaps even more impressive with its knowledge of the ancient world.

You can claim that none of the figures mentioned in the Torah existed, or even the New Testament, it doesn't matter to me. But you're absolutely beyond absurd if you want to claim the books themselves are not ancient.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  If the Torah is ancient then you should have no problem providing us with evidence which says as much. I'm waiting...

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ancient
Ancient: of or in time long past, especially before the end of the Western Roman Empire a.d. 476

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  According to whom exactly? Where is your evidence?

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-language

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  The question remains unanswered so I will ask again; Where were the Israelites 4000 years ago?

(09-06-2019 04:31 PM)Warlord Wrote:  4,000 years ago would put you in the time of the patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), who settled in Canaan, or what would later be known as Israel.

Warlord Wrote:I answered, you dumb fuck. I said they were in Canaan (in what would later be known as Israel.)

Warlord Wrote:Are you retarded? You ask me where Israel was 4,000 years ago, and then you provide the evidence yourself, you dumb shit. Assuming that Israel came into existence 5 seconds before the Merneptah Stele was created, that already puts Israel in the Middle East at a minimum of 3,200 years ago.

But you're right, dumb shit. Even the ancient Egyptians are in on this 3,500-year-old conspiracy to convince the world that the Israelites are 4,000 years old, instead of the true number, which is 3,200.

You really proved your point, you stupid fucking idiot.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  The 42 Negative Confessions are the source material for the so-called "Ten Commandments" taken almost word for word. The Torah and the Old Testament are full of examples of plagiarism of Egyptian and other religious texts. Like I said, there is *nothing* unique about the Torah or Judaism. They both come from older religious traditions.

Warlord Wrote:No. They weren't. Judaism, and later Christianity, contained and still contain values never before espoused by any other religion on Earth.

The Judeo-Christian bible introduced the idea of monotheism, the idea that God was outside nature, the idea that God was the uncreated first cause, and the idea that God was a universal God to all people, and not simply a tribal God or an elemental God.

The Judeo-Christian religion was the first (and only) religion in the ancient world that forbade human sacrifice, and mandated ethical treatment of not only humans, but also slaves, and even animals.

The 10 commandments and the 7 Noahide laws were also unique. How many other religions before Judeo-Christianity forbade you from coveting your neighbor's wealth? I'll wait for your exhaustive list, dipshit.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  Show me a god of Judaism who doesn't fit the same criteria.

Yahweh, the God of the Torah. In Judaism, Yahweh was not a tribal god. Yahweh was a universal god, concerned with the well being of all mankind, which places him outside the bounds of a tribal god.

Yahweh was not a nature god. He was not associated with the elements, as the gods of other religions. He was not a god of thunder like Zeus or Thor. He was not a god of the sun like Ra or the Aten. He was not a fertility god like Isis. Yahweh created the earth from nothing, and could command the elements, but he was not thought to be in those elements, nor was he associated with those elements.

Yahweh existed outside the physical universe, pre-existed the physical universe, and created the physical universe by speaking it into existence. He did not fashion the earth out of pre-existing material, as did the gods of other religions. Nor was Yahweh himself a physical being, but instead a spirit.

Yahweh did not exist within a pantheon of gods. He did not consort with gods, co-create with gods, or share earthly responsibilities over nature as other gods. Yahweh explicitly declared himself as the one and only god, and forbade the worship of pagan gods.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  It proves that there is nothing unique about the Christian religion, Einstein. Try paying attention.

You think a picture of a mother holding a child proves there is nothing original about the Christian religion? Could you elaborate on that point?

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  "Isis" and "Horus" are Greek words, Einstein. Now, ask yourself this question, why would Egyptian deities have Greek names?

Chew on that for a while...

So you think the names from an afrocentric coloring book are more accurate?

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  The people of Ancient Egypt were not semites.

Oh? What were they, then? And please don't say black. I know you motherfuckers think you wuz kangz, but you wazn't. You wuz dick washers.

(09-07-2019 11:59 AM)Nay_Sayer Wrote:  We will get to your questions soon enough.

No you won't, you fucking bitch. You'll continue to deflect because you're a fucking pussy. We were talking about evidence of white privilege and systemic racism, but you bitched out because you have nothing and decided instead to fixate on Jews and Christians because you're an insecure, rabid leftist afrocentric douchetard racist who hates Jews and Whites because they reinforce your own insecurities about yourself, and your place in history.

But if for some reason you ever do manage to overcome your own insecurities and grow a pair, and decide to get back to the topic at hand, here are those questions again.

1.) What rights or privileges do white Americans have that any other race doesn't under the law?

2.) If America is systemically racist, or white Americans enjoyed any special privilege or right in America that other minorities don't, why do so many minorities in America receive better educations and earn more money than whites, and why are whites incarcerated in much higher percentages than those minority races?

3.) How many Japanese citizens did the United States murder in their "Nazi style" concentration camps?

4.) How is the verb "discover" racist, and which non-racist verb do you think better describes what Columbus did?

5.) How did American Indians get to the Americas?

6.) Which black African country was a democracy or a republic before Greece/Rome?

7.) Which "Nile Valley" religion outlawed human sacrifice or forbade a man from coveting his neighbor's possessions?

8.) Which "Nile Valley" religion mandated ethical treatment of strangers, slaves, and animals?

9.) Which "Nile Valley" religion featured a monotheistic God who was a universal god, not a tribal god or an elemental god?

10.) What is the "Amen" you mentioned earlier? And what is the Papyrus of Anu that you mentioned earlier?